This clip is from an interview Bob Costas did with Jon Stewart on The Daily Show. If you don’t know who Costas is, he’s a sportscaster for NBC who controversially addressed the issue of gun control during halftime of Sunday Night Football, shortly after Jovan Belcher (a Kansas City Chiefs player) shot his girlfriend, Kassandra Perkins, and then shot himself in the Chief’s training facility.

Costas and Stewart touch on the idea of the gun culture in America, mostly how it is driven by the hip-hop industry and culture, which many of the NFL’s players are strongly tied to. Both hip-hop artists and NFL players are idolized in the minds of many young American men. The clip is only 7 minutes, so it’s worth a listen.